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Tips To Navigate Your Parents’ Evolving Needs and Finding Balance in the Chaos

A multitude of economic, social and cultural factors have given rise to many middle-aged Americans providing financial, emotional and physical support for their young children, adult children and parents at the same time, often with multiple generations living under one roof. Caring for children while caring for parents, while also trying to keep your own head above water, is a life masterclass in juggling. Needs are constantly competing for attention and resources, often leaving you stuck in the middle.

One of the main concerns facing the Sandwich Generation is: “How do I plan for my own future – my own retirement needs – when I’m constantly balancing the immediate needs of my family?” By addressing the three questions below, you can start to find balance in the chaos, while making sure your own financial future is secure.
What Are My Needs?
Flight attendants tell you to put on your own oxygen mask first before helping others and this is no different. The first step is to create a personal budget.
  • Determine Your Income. Specifically, you’ll want to determine your average monthly income. If your income varies by month, estimate by averaging the past six to 12 months.
  • Evaluate Your Emergency Fund. Keeping a stash of cash on hand in case of an emergency is essential. Your emergency fund should be separate from your day-to-day cash, and if you can, put away enough to cover at least three to six months’ of expenses.
  • Plan for Savings & Surplus. If you have surplus in your budget, it may be challenging to decide what to do with it. As a dual caregiver, there are an unending number of things you could do with that money, but the most important thing is to pay yourself first. A good rule of thumb is to save for your retirement ahead of your children’s college funds and your parents’ care needs. Be sure to pay off all your debt and evaluate your insurance needs.
What Are My Children’s Needs?
One of the biggest expenses of raising a child is education. If they’re young, consider whether private school tuition is going to be necessary. There may also be the added expenses of books, extracurricular activities and tutors. If you can swing it without sacrificing your own retirement needs, open a 529 College Savings plan, and start investing with as little as $25 per month.

Fifty percent of young Millennials plan to move back home with their parents after college.1 In order to make this work for everyone, it’s important to set expectations. Talk through everything from rent and shared expenses to division of household chores. Don’t neglect the impact this situation will have on your own retirement goals.
What Are My Parents’ Needs?
Navigating the needs of your parents can be emotional and tricky. But staying in the loop on what your parents have saved, where it is, what plans they have for the future, and who they trust as their Financial Advisor, will help protect their money and yours. You'll also be better able to make decisions on their behalf in case of an emergency.
Budgeting for your parents’ current and future needs is important. The good news is that you can use the same process you used to create your own budget. Include discussions about their desired standard of living – and what changes would need to happen, given financial constraints. Don’t forget the hard questions: How long can my parents stay in their home? Can they afford home health care? Should they live with me? What about assisted living? Additional care? These are all discussions that need to happen before a move is required.
Finding Balance in the Chaos
Dual caregiving comes with a lot of chaos. Don’t forget to make yourself a priority. By creating a clear picture of the needs of every generation under your care, you can map out strategies and solutions that help your entire family thrive. And if you need additional guidance on how to balance this big picture, don’t be afraid to reach out to a financial advisor for help.
1 Forbes. 50% Of Millennials Are Moving Back Home With Their Parents After College. Available at https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/06/06/millennials-move-back-home-college/. Accessed February 24, 2020.
If an account owner or the beneficiary resides in or pays income taxes to a state that offers its own 529 college savings or pre-paid tuition plan (an “In-State Plan”), that state may offer state or local tax benefits. These tax benefits may include deductible contributions, deferral of taxes on earnings and/or tax-free withdrawals. In addition, some states waive or discount fees or offer other benefits for state residents or taxpayers who participate in the In-State Plan. An account owner may be denied any or all state or local tax benefits or expense reductions by investing in another state’s plan (an “Out-of-State Plan”). In addition, an account owner’s state or locality may seek to recover the value of tax benefits (by assessing income or penalty taxes) should an account owner rollover or transfer assets from an In-State Plan to an Out-of-State Plan. While state and local tax consequences and plan expenses are not the only factors to consider when investing in a 529 Plan, they are important to an account owner’s investment return and should be taken into account when selecting a 529 plan.
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Larry has been with Morgan Stanley since 1999. Prior to joining the firm he spent 20 years in the U.S. Navy Civil Engineer Corps gaining vast experience in project planning, time value of money, and risk mitigation. 

Larry's responsibilities within the group include the oversight of our Financial Planning Process and managing custom portfolios for our clients seeking to maximize returns without taking unnecessary investment risk. Larry's work history and life experiences provide a solid foundation from which to advise clients on how to deal with unfamiliar and seemingly overwhelming financial situations.

Larry is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy receiving a BS in Naval Architecture and a graduate of Texas A&M receiving an MS in Ocean Engineering. He is a member of the West Olympia Rotary Club and a former Board Member for the American Red Cross Mount Rainier Chapter. Larry grew up in Olympia and is a descendant of family that settled in Olympia in 1852.
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Lorie has studied, worked, and lived internationally. She holds a Master’s Degree in Business Administration (MBA) from Washington State University and both a bachelor’s degree in business and in economics from Pacific Lutheran University. Prior to Morgan Stanley, Lorie was employed by two Fortune 100 companies GE and Oracle. During her time at these companies, Lorie was involved in planning and interpreting financial conditions while working as a strategist for international products with a focus on market research, forecasting, sourcing, and distribution.

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Lorie grew up in the area and enjoys hiking, biking, and boating on Puget Sound with her husband, son, and his dog.
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Jodi brings exceptional client service and expertise to The Woodard Bay Group. She has been in the finance and banking industry for over 25 years. Jodi has been with Morgan Stanley since 1998 and holds the Series 7 and Series 66 licenses in the investment industry. Originally from Minnesota, Jodi moved to Washington in 1991 after her husband was relocated to Ft. Lewis from Germany where they lived for 3 years. She enjoys camping, golfing and travel.

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3Investors should consider many factors before deciding which 529 plan is appropriate. Some of these factors include: the Plan’s investment options and the historical investment performance of these options, the Plan’s flexibility and features, the reputation and expertise of the Plan’s investment manager, Plan contribution limits and the federal and state tax benefits associated with an investment in the Plan. Some states, for example, offer favorable tax treatment and other benefits to their residents only if they invest in the state’s own Qualified Tuition Program. Investors should determine their home state’s tax treatment of 529 plans when considering whether to choose an in-state or out-of-state plan. Investors should consult with their tax or legal advisor before investing in any 529 Plan or contact their state tax division for more information. Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC does not provide tax and/or legal advice. Investors should review a Program Disclosure Statement, which contains more information on investment options, risk factors, fees and expenses and possible tax consequences.

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